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Loyal Servant
Caldari
PURE Legion
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.17 06:43:00 -
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The cost of killing them is disproportionate.
It costs a crew a lot of isk + security status to suicide them.
You will spend 3x more isk and time killing them then they spend re-equipping.
isk farmers have the upper hand in this game.
They basically run it.
It will get a LOT worse in the coming months.
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Loyal Servant
Caldari
PURE Legion
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.18 18:35:00 -
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There are a lot of clowns that do the name thing.
There is one thing they can do to weed regular players from farmers easily..
The farmers' weakness is their account sharing.
A toon is logged in for a 23 hour period.. every day
I have written down a farmers name and gone to bed..
Got up the next morning - still there
Went to work and came home - still there.
Wash, rinse, repeat.
Compile a list, watch them and ban them.
One (1) person could make a difference in the farmer population.
If one person took that on the farmer population would plummet.. BUT!
CCP would lose probably 1/3 of their playerbase.
That is 1/3 of their income.
Farmers are basically paying CCP off.
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Loyal Servant
Caldari
PURE Legion
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.19 22:42:00 -
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Edited by: Loyal Servant on 19/01/2009 22:42:12
 Originally by: Irish Blend
Originally by: Zeba
Why do I get the feeling that all these 'soulutions' are from people who never once warped to an ice belt and are running off forum propaganda. 
They are from forum trolls who dont know what it takes in a single Mack to mine enough ice to refine to get enough isotopes to run a single large POS
If they knew how much work it took they would understand why people live in the ice belts
Ever visit an ice belt?
Ever see the number of isk farmers in those belts?
Just because it takes a lot of 'time' it must be okay to break the rules and make it harder for smaller outfits that like to mine.
Or is it because the farmers tell this sad story of playing games so they can send that $5 a month back to their parents in some small fishing village back west?
Perhaps you actually approve of the other illegal activities that they are doing while buying and selling isk, or their means of obtaining it?
Farmers are not only involved in isk trading but a lot of them are into other kinds of fraud.
Edit: typo
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Loyal Servant
Caldari
PURE Legion
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.20 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: Zeba
Yes. Matter of fact there is one in the high sec system im mining missions in and there is never anyone there. Hell even the belts are full of untouched ore.
I have seen them, too.
The reason there are no farmers in them is because they are...
A. In lowsec
B. have no direct hisec path to jita.
Meaning they are in hisec but you have to go thru lowsec to get there.
Originally by: Zeba
Ice is not like a normal roid that pops after a few cycles as they insane amounts of ice units in each piece of ice and there are hundreds of the things in an ice belt so anyone and everyone who has a fancy to mine some ice will always have plenty to go round.
So because there 'is enough to go around' means that it's okay for isk farmers to mine them?
Do you actually believe this stuff you are typing up?
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Loyal Servant
Caldari
PURE Legion
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.20 05:19:00 -
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Originally by: Tanaka Atsuko
this is proof that CCP supports ISK buying by allowing macorwers to go unpunished and by providing them greater protection withthe concord buff
They support it by the fact that if you buy isk your likely to keep your account.
I talked to a guy that bought isk more than 10 times and got caught twice.
He does not care.. he has loads of money and if they catch him buying a billion isk be buys another billion and he is back at 0
Thing is, it does not take a rocket scientist to see the same gibberish names in the ice field 23/7 and realize that they are farming for isk.
People ask.. why ice? and justify it by saying people need it for DDs and pos and jump fuel, etc etc.
They are right you need ice product for all of those things.
'Oh there is no money in it' is a famous one.
It's easier for the farmers to farm ice than it is for them to run missions and ninja rat.
ice mining can be turned into a serious macro operation, and that is what it is.
There is a human on hand controlling the 15 or so accounts that are farming ice so if you do something to them they are going to correct it.
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Loyal Servant
Caldari
PURE Legion
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.20 08:04:00 -
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I just went to a system 1 jump from where I was... and what do I find...
A crew of macro isk farmers in the belt in a back end system.
Linkage
Got me I guess there are none.
That is not a lot but it's 6 plus 1 hauler.
I can go to all kinds of systems up north and guaranteed to find 100 in one belt alone.
There were 8 people in this system... 7 isk farmers and me.
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Loyal Servant
Caldari
PURE Legion
KIA Alliance
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Posted - 2009.01.22 15:02:00 -
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Originally by: Valhallas
Would 4 newly created characters trained up to lv3 destroyer be enough to do this?, I'm not sure, 32 t1 blasters on an industrial is a lot, all fully insured of course. Cost per destroyer lost is minimal. When sec status falls too low just bin the characters and create new ones and repeat.
It only requires that you keep one of your three character slots free to recycle the characters.
I think that recycling characters for the purpose of ganking farmers will probably get you a ban.
Remember, the farmers have more control than we do.
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